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Post  Hugo Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:09 am

A relic city is a great idea. It's safe from ninjas and the Ai Jinn. One of the few places in the world that will be. Which one will we go to?

There are more questions. Standby while I compile a list.

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Post  Ace Nizky Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:13 am

Can you think of an environment where the Ai-Jinn can't find us? The Order are not stupid. Just because they shun modern technology doesn't mean they don't sterilise tools and their biokines ans therapists can help immensely. No-one would dear try to attack us in a relic city. I would recommend Jerusalem as we already have facilities and contacts set up there.
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Post  Coraline Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:53 am

Alright, I am having a thought though. Surely the transport shuttle will have its own airlock? That sounds like a safety measure the UIG would insist on. If so and should we get hold of signal jammers, entirely more "ifs" than anyone should be comfortable with I know but bear with me, then we could hi jack the shuttle in transit. The stealth craft ought to get us close enough to jam them, we rappel over and cling onto the side. From there bypassing the security on the outer airlock ought to be pretty trivial for our intrusion specialists. We wait until any air in the airlock is out of it, enter- closing the outer airlock as we do so. Force the airlock to refill with air and then bypass the inner airlock. At which point we'll probably come under heavy fire from the Ai-Jinn inside but I suspect we would still be able to subdue them. Does that sound like a viable alternative to infiltrating another facility on Earth beforehand?
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Post  Hugo Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:50 pm

That sounds like a back up plan if infiltration on the ground does not work.

Current problems with the plan:
  1. We do not know where the transport ship is leaving from, or even what planet.
  2. We do not know the security of the facility the transport ship is leaving from.
  3. We do not know who or what the transport ship is transporting.
  4. We do not know who will be infiltrating the transport ship. They must be deadly and intimidating and competent.
  5. When and how do we plant the dummy signal? How do we get a dummy signal?
  6. We don't know any weak spots to plant bombs in.
  7. We don't know what security CS17 has in terms of preparation.
  8. We don't know how to counteract the activities of their AI.
  9. We don't know what kind of foes we will come up against guarding the station, their skills, if they are droids or not, etc. All we know is that they happily torture people. Our people.
  10. We don't know how many prisoners there are or what they are being imprisoned for.
  11. We don't know how we will open any containment they are in.
  12. As the plan stands now, we will need to take a bunch of weak, possibly heavily incapacitated agents up the entire core of the ship, including past security and the crew quarters. A way to cut this down would be good. Can a ship dock enough with the hole in the side of the station to send prepared prisoners into the transport ship?
  13. Can we expect the Apocrita to pick up any stragglers in space if there are any before the Ai Jinn shoot us from the sky?


What else?

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Post  Hugo Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:44 pm

Four more questions:
1. How will people hiding in the ship stay hidden when the infiltrators go about their business?
2. Does Jerusalem know we are showing up there? Are they prepared? Can someone let us know?
3. Who will pilot the ship or ships?
4. Ace, the hacker, should not be outside, as he and Shinobu will likely need to work together to take down the AI. Is it okay for you to be inside the ship at the time?

Anyone have any answers?

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Post  Tansai Kay Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:51 pm

I'm good with bombs, I can take the outside while Ace hacks.
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Post  Hugo Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:10 pm

That is an answer to one question. Our remaining questions are:


  1. We do not know where the transport ship is leaving from, or even what planet.
  2. We do not know the security of the facility the transport ship is leaving from.
  3. We do not know who or what the transport ship is transporting.
  4. We do not know who will be infiltrating the transport ship. They must be deadly and intimidating and competent.
  5. When and how do we plant the dummy signal? How do we get a dummy signal?
  6. We don't know any weak spots to plant bombs in.
  7. We don't know what security CS17 has in terms of preparation.
  8. We don't know how to counteract the activities of their AI.
  9. We don't know what kind of foes we will come up against guarding the station, their skills, if they are droids or not, etc. All we know is that they happily torture people. Our people.
  10. We don't know how many prisoners there are or what they are being imprisoned for.
  11. We don't know how we will open any containment they are in.
  12. As the plan stands now, we will need to take a bunch of weak, possibly heavily incapacitated agents up the entire core of the ship, including past security and the crew quarters. A way to cut this down would be good. Can a ship dock enough with the hole in the side of the station to send prepared prisoners into the transport ship?
  13. Can we expect the Apocrita to pick up any stragglers in space if there are any before the Ai Jinn shoot us from the sky?
  14. How will people hiding in the ship stay hidden when the infiltrators go about their business?
  15. Does Jerusalem know we are showing up there? Are they prepared? Can someone let us know?
  16. Who will pilot the ship or ships?


Are you guys getting these messages? These are important. We need as many answers as possible. Please let me know you are trying to solve these problems with me. I know I'm not the best for this kind of stuff, and they are relying on us. They have no hope except for us. Okay? Do you guys get it? This needs to be perfect if we ever want to get her back.

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Post  Coraline Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:40 pm

We are going to get them all back sweet heart. If we do not manage to get a map, or find any indication or structural weakness while inside, then we can always plant the explosives on the inner hull. Especially the security ring and main docking area. We should also assume that thermal cameras will be everywhere, since the internal environment will be heavily regulated and any thermal signature is a dead giveaway in space. Which means ETE paint before insertion for anyone clinging to the outside of the ship and anyone stealthing inside. Both of these groups should probably also take sound dampeners, as we do not know crew numbers or how loud the machinery is. The chance that someone might hear is slim but if anyone did that could disrupt all our plans. 

The AI is an issue. If one of us could get close to it via infiltration and then neutralise or remove it from the system then that work but anyone who tried would run the risk of altering the AI to our presence. If we suspect that it will rumble us at some point before we escape, quite likely given that our aim is to recover our friends (their prisoners) then I think it is worth the risk. Of all of us I think I might be the best suited for this, although I would simply hate to have to do it alone. Oh! Unless there is a heavy droid presence on the station, in which case, Ace if you have any droids who can hack or otherwise neutralise an AI you should definitely bring them! 

Security we don't know about but we can safely assume that they won't be packing anything powerful enough to damage their own station, if you will pardon the punkish parlance. That means that we are ahead of them already Hugo. Though we should avoid damaging the hull until we have our people off the station. That means bolts for you sweetie, careful aim for me, and sticky grenades for anyone using them. Something tells me that magnetised grenades might not work as intended in such an environment. If the station is partially automated then we can expect security systems as well to be as well, working in conjunction with augmented personel. Bots, turrets, trip wires (laser or otherwise) and pressure plates. Of course should we neutralise anything connected to the AI then it will know the station is under attack immediately. Perhaps the AI should be a higher priority. Do we know for sure that there is one?

I think, from the direction that planning is currently headed, we should consider taking over security systems our first priority. Quietly dealing with the station AI, if there is one, and taking over the centralised security would make the rest of our work much simpler. 

I assumed that Ace and his pilots would be in charge of the dare devil piloting, darling.
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Post  Shinobu Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:16 pm

The shuttle will be leaving from a military spaceport several miles outside Beijing (co-ordinates attached). The security on the ground isn't too bad - it's set up to defend against a large-scale attack, with tanks and soldiers and aircraft for full-scale security responses, but if we stay quiet infiltrating then we'll only have to worry about standard patrols and cameras. If everything goes wrong we're totally screwed, but if we stick to a small team that can stay hidden and don't let on what's happened until we've got away form the base we should be fine.

I'll go with the base infiltration team, but I'll certainly need other people with me. If nothing else, I have no idea how to pilot one of those things.


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Post  Ace Nizky Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:16 pm

Ideally you will want to leave a pilot to fly it, or not get caught until you are in space. I can provide a Piloting chip if absolutely nessisary. Good work.
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Post  Hugo Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:33 pm

These are the remaining issues I can see, or the answers to questions.


  1. The transport ship is leaving from A port near Beijing.
  2. Two people being stealthy as possible should be able to hide in the transport ship.
  3. We do not know who or what the transport ship is transporting.
  4. If there are prisoners on the transport ship, who will guard them? Can we trust on them to help us? Will they tell on us?
  5. Shinobu will be infiltration group. Who else? Shap might be a good choice.
  6. When and how do we plant the dummy signal? How do we get a dummy signal?
  7. We don't know any weak spots to plant bombs in.
  8. We suspect what security CS17 has in terms of preparation.
  9. We don't know how to counteract the activities of their AI, but we will prioritize getting to the AI first.
  10. We don't know what kind of foes we will come up against guarding the station, their skills, if they are droids or not, etc. We can expect basic security measures.
  11. We don't know how many prisoners there are or what they are being imprisoned for.
  12. We don't know how we will open any containment they are in.
  13. Creating a hole in the side of the station is possible, provided the pick up ship is right there.
  14. Can we expect the Apocrita to pick up any stragglers in space if there are any before the Ai Jinn shoot us from the sky?
  15. Basic precautions will be taken to hide people on the transport ship, as well as distraction.
  16. Does Jerusalem know we are showing up there? Are they prepared? Can someone let us know?
  17. Who will pilot the ship or ships?


Does anyone know the answers to any more questions?

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Post  Ace Nizky Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:01 am

I am speaking to my contacts in Jerusalem. I'll make sure we have somewhere to go.

I will pilot the stealth shuttle, at least for the first half. I have seccured the aid of Eroz's top pilot for the mission and the crew of the Apocrita is ready to help pickup. Obviously if we can keep this away from outright war then all the better.
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Post  Hugo Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:37 pm

These are the remaining issues I can see, or the answers to questions.

  1. We do not know who or what the transport ship is transporting.
  2. If there are prisoners on the transport ship, who will guard them? Can we trust on them to help us? Will they tell on us?
  3. Who else besides Shinobu is going to infiltrate the base?
  4. When and how do we plant the dummy signal? How do we get a dummy signal?
  5. We don't know any weak spots to plant bombs in.
  6. We don't know how many prisoners there are or what they are being imprisoned for.
  7. We don't know how we will open any containment they are in.
  8. The Apocrita will be around to pick up stragglers.
  9. Jerusalem knows we are coming.
  10. Ace will pilot the ship there. Who else knows how to pilot it back?
  11. Will we be bringing anyone else?


Updated list of questions. Please please answer them and add more. I know I am not the smartest at this stuff and there needs to be other problems I haven't thought of.

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Post  Coraline Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:08 pm

Oh, uh, I highly doubt we could stop any of Phoenix mercenaries from coming at this point. It is more a question of how best they can help with the rescue attempt. Limited of course by how many we can fit in with us, in either shuttle. They could help with the infiltration and neutralising security on the station, especially if the station personnel expect the transport ship's crew to move any new prisoners down to the actual cells. I'm afraid I don't know who among the mercs would be best for any task we might have for them, I don't know them well enough. Though more people on the station, moving in groups to eliminate security and plant bombs, especially if the AI or security systems do notice us at any point? They would be a great help. Also I have 15 large explosive charges now, so we'll need some help distributing those around the station.
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Post  Hugo Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:31 pm

So who is coming then? Which mercenaries?

I can just barely pilot. Enough to get a license but not much more.
I will go if we have no other alternatives.


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Post  Coraline Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:24 pm

Since no one got back to me on what we need Phoenix help with most, I went ahead and asked who could help infiltrating the station. So we're going to be taking, Jin, Jenessa, Katsu, Hua and also Vasku who I'm told has experience getting around AIs. So, yes. Hope everyone is alright with that, my sweets, they were very enthusiastic.
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Post  Heizhizhu Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:49 pm

I will be on the infiltration team with Shinobu.
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