Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

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Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:18 am

The idea of plasma pistols being able to damage cyberlins and tanks is a bit crazy, but possible due to the "Ignores all AV" rule. An alternate system has been proposed by MindX over on the Deniable Resources forum. Here is a copy paste of their suggestion.

Ranged plasma weapons: Plasma weapons ignore Armor Value equal to their maximum damage potential.
Example 1: The AMS Handheld Plasma Discharger does D10 damage and ignores 10 AV.
Example 2: The AMS PR88 Plasma Carbine does 2D8+1 damage and ignores 17 AV.
Example 3: The AMS PX5 Induced Heavy Plasma Inducer does 5D10+5 damage and ignores 55 AV.

Close Combat plasma weapons: Close Combat Plasma Weapons ignore one half of their maximum damage rather than a universal +4 as written in the Core Rules page 34.
Example 1: The Richenbacker Arclite Raptor Plasma Sword does D8 damage and ignores 4 AV.
Example 2: The Richenbacker Arclite Executioner Two Handed Sword does D12 damage and ignores 6 AV.

Would you all like to try this out, or is the idea of plasma pistols dropping APCs too much fun? I'll also be looking at Galvanic weapons in the future to see if they suffer a similar problem.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Darya Demeter on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:22 am

How would this work with the Bloodstorm? Would that ignore 36 AV, or 6 AV per dice?

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:30 am

I think I will make it 6AV per dice assigned to a target. If you hit 6 targets then it ignores 6 AV for each of them. If you hit a single target, then it will ignore 36AV.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Darya Demeter on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:31 am

Makes sense.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Pinkie on Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:13 am

RE: Close combat weapons; these rules would make the Heavy duty version of the focused psi blade potenially the most armour ignoring and therefore dangerous melee weapon in the game?

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:26 am

Nice. Magic sword.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Enrique on Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:27 pm

what about the reaver plasma blade cybernetics?

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:42 pm

Good spot. I will let this continue to ignore 4AV for simplicity's sake.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:26 pm

I have closed the poll now. There was a clear victory for the new system, so we will try it out until something goes horribly wrong with it.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Pinkie on Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:00 pm

with regard to plasmic assualt do the new rules apply? Simply because it says it ignores 10 points of AV and the req's mean it would ignore 60 points of armour.

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Re: Alternate Plasma Weapon vs. AV System

Post  Admin on Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm

Ignoring 10 AV sounds good and balanced.

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